Thursday 8 July 2010

Supplement vs Whole Foods

A comment from MIO on my previous entry- The Irony of the Medical Profession

"hmm. lagi satu yg smpai sekarang sy masih ragu2 - org kata, lebih baik ambil supplement sebab walau macam mana seimbang pun makanan yg kita ambik, mungkin makanan tu hilang zat sebab overcooked dsb. but you know me - paling besar ubat yg pernah ditelan pun ialah folic acid (yg dimakan dgn penuh susah payah), jadi redha aje la dengan pemakanan seimbang - nak senang, makan aje ulam dah sah2 takde risiko overcooked"

(adakah blog ini telah menjadi ruangan soal jawab bersama doktor kesayangan anda? :P)

Firstly, I would like to disclose that what I am going to write are what I gathered from reading various sources of materials including textbooks, articles and published papers. I am not a nutritionist, and I have never had a nutritionist guru to guide me. So please read with a critical mind as these are my understandings from my reading only. Perhaps if you are a nutritionist or a food scientist yourself, you can leave a comment and correct me. Thank you. May Allah protects us from false knowledge.

If you still remember your science or Alam dan Manusia subjects in school, we all learned that nutrients are categorized into 5 major groups namely carbohydrates, proteins, fats, minerals/vitamins and fibers. The minerals/vitamins group are highly unstable chemicals that there is a risk of losing it due to overcooking, like MIO had rightly pointed out. Hence the market is overflowing with vitamins and minerals tablets to ensure that we get enough of our recommended daily allowance.

I am not going to write about why we should not take the supplements, because I don't have enough evidence to say that they are bad for health. Not because of the vitamins but of the other compounds added to make the tablets have long shelf life (tahan lama), easily absorbed and stable in the acidic environment of the stomach. Instead, I am going to focus on why we should eat the fruits / vegetables that supply the vitamins themselves.

The scientists have now found that there are more than just the 5 groups of nutrients. There are now 2 more- antioxidants and phytochemicals. This knowledge has been around since probably 1950s, but somehow it is not given any weight it deserves. I suspect this has much to do with the billion dollars worth of pharmaceutical industry---> (OK ni ada unsur2 fitnah, tak pasti kebenarannya).

I am sure you have heard a lot about antioxidants- it is a chemical in foods that help remove reactive free radicals from our cells. Free radicals if accumulated leads to aging and a series of diseases associated with aging (cancer, heart disease, arthritis, alzheimers). Researchers found that by giving antioxidants to animal specimens in laboratories increase their life span (umur lebih panjang). Does this hold true for humans? Wallahualam.

Phytochemicals are chemicals in plants that help the plants to defend themselves against threats / diseases. For animals, the response to threats are running / change colours to camouflage / venoms or stings but plants can't do all these, so they produce the phytochemicals to help defend themselves.

We all learned that the vitamins strengthen our immune cells to fight diseases, but it is now found that these phytochemicals fight germs and cancer cells themselves in our bodies. They are the God-given medicine, readily available in foods (Subhanallah!).

The names of these phytochemicals are very alien to us. You can see the list here (with the food examples). To name a few of these chemicals- flavanoids, ellagic acid, allicin, beta carotene.......the list goes on. There are a few that has been proven to attack and kill cancer cells directly (amazing, isn't it?) so the knowledge of this will help you choose which fruit or vegetable that you want to consume more. This practice is now termed 'nutraceuticals' (as opposed to pharmaceuticals). I've only been reading about those that help to kill cancer cells but I'm sure different phytochemicals work for other diseases too. (now can you hear your grandma's voice telling you- makan ni, baik nak buang angin / elok untuk peranakan etc? ---yeah you are right Opah.. sob sob menyesal tak pay attention. AlFatihah untuk Opah).

Phytochemicals are also found in abundance in spices. That is why traditional Asian and Mediterranean cuisine are protective of many diseases, as opposed to Western cuisine that is rich in meat and poultry.

Now you see that in a single fruit or a single vegetable leaf contains vitamins, antioxidants, phytochemicals and various other minerals, why would you choose a pill of vitamin C, or B, or folate, or iron, or calcium? How many pills do you have to consume to give you the same health benefits an orange or carrot can give you?

Besides, eating the whole fruit or leaves will provide you fibers, to help you pass motion easily. Fibers also helps delay sugar absorption (how fast sugar is absorbed and the body's response to it also plays a role in cancer development). And it satisfy your hunger, of course.

It is now recommended that we take at least 5 portions of fruits or vegetables a day to stay healthy. (An apple or an orange is a portion, 10 strawberries are a portion etc). It is not easy. On good days I usually only achieve 4 portions (veges for lunch and dinner and 2 fruits). But one day I will get there. The most important thing is to start.

80g of strawberries (about 8-10, depending on sizes) provide you one portion of your 5-a-day

Another way to achieve the 5 portions is to drink fresh juice. No sugar added of course. And it is better to drink whole juice (meaning you crush the whole carrot or orange or apple) not just the concentrate (perahan).This is because some nutrients are in the seeds or the inner rind. For example, the white rind of an orange (or any citrus fruits eg lemon, grapefruit, pomelo) contains quercetin- a natural anti-cancer agent that makes cancer cells commit suicide (apoptosis-remember, I wrote about this earlier here). So the next time you eat outside, choose a fresh juice drink with no sugar instead of soft drinks.

Overcooked vegetables?

Yes this is a major concern in preparing nutritious food. It is recommended that we eat them raw (ulam) but certain vegetables are not palatable to be eaten raw (to me at least) eg cabbage, broccoli. It is best to stir fry them quickly (with very little water if you must add) or steam them. Making them into soups are not advisable. The nutrients are highly unstable. What do we do? Making it into kerabu is a good way to eat them. I will share the kerabu tomato recipe later. But don't forget to say a prayer before cooking them, asking Allah to preserve the nutrients in the food so that they become medicine to us. :) Leave everything in His hands. He Knows Best.

Organic or non-organic?

Organic fruits / vegetables means no pesticide is used in growing them. Is it important? Yes, definitely. Experiments on urine of children eating non-organic fruits/veges showed significant high concentration of pesticides in their urine compared to children eating organic. These pesticides although very minimal and are removed from our body via kidneys and liver, surely prolonged and continuous exposure of it to our cells will eventually damage and 'exhaust' our cells. 

There is a theory that if phytochemicals help plants defend themselves, then the use of pesticides will lower the phytochemical contents of the plants. However this is still a theory, not proven yet. But I think this is a sound argument. If this is true, then we have 2 valid reasons to only eat organic fruits/veges- no pesticides and higher phytochemical contents.

However there are downsides of eating organic. They are expensive! sigh..... It costs double to purchase them. And they are not bigger or taste nicer either. This is when you say "Money can buy you health" (provided you are not sick yet).

But what is the price of our kidneys? liver? our joints?  Buying organic is an important investment of our money.... for health and longevity (after zakat and charity for eternal safety). Is it more important than any branded designer's items? (am asking myself.. :P)

But don't use the excuse of unable to afford organics deter you from eating more fruits/veges.Wash them thoroughly and peel the skin (pesticides cling mostly to the skin).

Who need supplements?

There are a number of people who must take supplements because they have increase demand of a particular nutrient, or their body has problems absorbing them. They are:

1. Pregnant mothers- must take folate, iron and calcium supplements. Although for normal pregnancies it is usually enough to just get these from food, for many mothers they require additional supplements because they cannot eat more food due to excessive vomiting and nausea, or poor spacing between births (tiap2 tahun beranak) because their bodies have no time to recover. Supplements also needed for vegetarians (in Malaysia usually Indian mothers) and poor mothers (yang hanya mampu makan nasi dan ikan kering je).

2. People with kidney failures- they require Vit D and calcium supplements.

3. Babies who exclusively breastfeed after 6 months- requires iron supplements.

4. People with various metabolic diseases or malabsorption syndrome.

aaahh..can't think of anything else. Anything the readers want to add, feel free to do so.

So MIO, who told you that it is better to take supplements? Are they the people who sell the supplements? If only the fruits and veges vendors knew what they sell are precious gems...

Gotta eat an apple now.

15 comments:

anon suria said...

Good information. well done hasma.

1. Try to eat fresh fruit n vege first.
2. kalo tak boleh sgt nak telan ..sbb sakit, atau tak suka makan sayur ( or sebab termasuk dalam kumpulan berisiko macam doc hasma cakap..)....then baru ambil supplement.
3. But remember..1 tablet supplement ( eg:vitamin C )cannot provides all the nutrient we need. So kalo nak dapat semua nutrient..kena ambik variety of supplement.(sanggup ker nak ambil berbelas supplement in one day sbb nak dapatkan jugak benefit traces element..)

4.Bukan ker senang if we eat fruits and vege everyday and we get all needed nutrient!duit pun jimat.

5.Supplement tak salah..but you must be aware why you need supplement -if you still can get the fresh one!

6. I agree to take fruit juice with all the fibre(serat). jgn buang hampasnya. It helps to delay sugar absorption in our blood.

idea seposen dari Su yang tak makan supplement except folic acids masa plan nak peknen n during first trimester.Alhamdulillah..everything goes well.

dun say i blame supplement! no. in some cases we need it.

Rizza said...

Puan Doktor, tumpang tanya...
saya ni tak arif bab2 ilmu kedoktoran..ilmu kek saya arif le heheh

1. adakah susu (fresh milk atau susu tin) amat2 penting buat anak yg berumur 5 thn ke atas? (hassan lee)

2. bagaimana jika dia suka makan sayur, buah.. makan cheese, roti2, lauk2 pauk segala yg kurang pedas, kurang gula, kurang garam, kurang minyak, adakah susu tu pentinh buat dia atau hanya supplement...?

3. adakah penting susu (fresh milk) buat saya? yg sememang nye tak lalu nak minum susu kat msia ni.. kalau obesi nye susu terutama choc milk.. 3L tu sekali hadap pun boleh abis.. sedap.. heheh

4. betulkan.. faktor genetik mempengaruhi tumbesaran org kan.. kurus, gemuk, tinggi, pendek??
saya ni tak belajar biologi dulu2.. heheh
letih oo asyik suruh saya makan utk gemuk.. saya makan emmang tak gemuk.. dah ade keturunan dari belah ayah yg kurus2..

5. bahaya ke makan atau minum air jus epal hijau , belimbing selalu?

sekian soklan saya.. harap puan doktor dpt membantu.. cewah.. heheh'
"mekasih!"

SMM said...

i love this post! thanks a lot bas :)

aku jenis yg 'malas' (unconvinced) nak ambil supplements.. i do try to eat more fruits and vege, tapi belum cukup quota 5 portions per day (tah2 cuma separuh).. and aku concerned juga pasal vege being overcooked. aku tak bpr gemar ulam eg ulam raja, kacang botol, pucuk ubi etc kalau salad aku makan hehe ;p

kalau dr hasma membuka ruang 'mari bertanya doktor kesayangan anda', aku nak tanya - how to increase my energy level? aku selalu rasa cepat penat. buat kerja rumah sikit, dah penat. balik kerja, penat. lembik betul..

SMM said...

nak tanya soalan tambahan:
should we eat fruits before or after meals? and why?

Mamaboyz said...

Su

thanks! saya dah tambah dalam entry pasal fibers regulate blood sugar tu

Mamaboyz said...

kak rizza,

alamak, ni dah memang jadik ruang soal jawab nih :)

pasal susu-

1. ramai orang ada satu keadaan namanya 'lactose intolerance'. ramai orang Asia macam ni. itu sebab susu tu bukannya penting sgt pada kita seperti pentingnya susu dalam western diet. org yang ada keadaan ini bila dia minum susu perut memulas tak tahan. orang kita boleh minum teh tarik dgn ABC je hahaha

2. susu punca penting protein dan kalsium. kalau tak minum susu tetapi diganti dgn sumber protein dan kalsium yang lain eg cheese, yoghurt, sayur daun warna hijau, kekacang dah oklah tu!

3. utk orang dewasa samalah macam 2 point saya di atas. tetapi bila seorang pompuan dah menopause, tulang kita akan mereput cepat sebab kita dah kehilangan perlindungan dari hormon estrogen, jadi sumber kalsium tu lebih kritikal utk pompuan yg dah menopause (lambat lagi kan? :))
jadi sekarang sebab tak suka minum susu kenalah siap2 padatkan tulang sepadat mungkin hehe..caranya ialah weight bearing exercise.. exercise yang spesifiknya kenalah tanya ahli2 fitness yang lebih berilmu :)

pasal genetik kurus gemuk memang metabolisma badan ditentukan genetik, janganla cuba nak gemukkan badan, nak buat apa? heheh tapi kak rizza sure yg kakrizza kurus bukan sebab masalah thyroid?

pasal selalu minum jus epal/belimbing tu baguslah, tapi yg fresh dan sugar free, kalau kordial atau yg manis sgt maka jus tu jadi tak bagus

sekian. harap membantu :)

Mamaboyz said...

mynie,

sebenarnya memang susahla nak achieve 5 portions tu sebab definition portion dia besar, kalau plum kena 2 biji, kalau limau kecik tu pun kena 2, baru kira 1 portion, sayur masa makan nasi tu pun bukan sesudu dua tapi setengah pinggan heh

dahla 5 portion tu minimum, bukannya ideal or enough,kalau betul2 ikut 5 a day rule tu memang kenyang tak payah makan snek lain, maybe tu sebab very beneficial

about energy level... tiredness tu symptom saja, usually ada underlying cause eg anemia,low thyroid (i dont think you are if you still maintain your size since the last time i saw you), depression

but most commonly it is due to sedentary lifestyle, meaning lack of exercise :D

what you can do (if you think you are not sick and you dont have other symptoms) is..adopt an exercise regime and increase your vit B consumption (found in whole grain cereals, eggs and green leafy veges)

about the exercise..the exercise should not make you tired, a good exercise should make you more energetic after the exercise as compared to before..this is due to endorphins released after the exercise that will give you more energy and better focus.. if an exercise makes you more tired after the work out then drop it and try other ways (dancing, swimming, pilates, karate-robic etc)

pasal the best time to eat fruits...aku pun tak tau! wakakaka aku try google, ada banyak answers tapi from forums and i haven't found an answer from a credible source yet..

but what i gathered from the forums is the rule of thumb is to eat fruit on empty stomach, this is because other foods disturb the absorption of the nutrients, so it is better to eat before meal

and eating it on empty stomach has other logical benefits too, you won't be snacking on other junks and if eat before meal you will be half full so you won't over eat

aku pun nak tau so i will look out for the answers and maybe if long enough will put it up as a post :)

Al-Manar said...

DRWATI
Once I came across an American doctor blogger who had a medical 'questions and answers' day in a week. On that day she would answer all the questions sent during the week. Soon you will have to do that. Then I can get free medical advice!You seem to be heading that way. Well done.
Salaam to you and family.

Mamaboyz said...

Salam Pakcik Hassan,

It is an honor to have you leaving your trail here :)

To confidently have that kind of service in this blog, I think I have to get more qualifications first :) for now I will just answer friend's questions (kalau tak nanti siapa yg malu? hehe)

SMM said...

bas,
thanks :)

Rizza said...

tq dr wati..
thyroid?
macam mana nak kata masalah tu? haraf maaf.. saya ni buta bab medical2 term ni... heheheh

yg ye nye sejak dulu memang kurus .. sejak kecik..rasanya lepas umur 2thn-3thn kot.. dan tak pernah pulak doktor kata apa2 sakit bila check.. medical check up dah byk kali buat.. check up biase pun dah.. cuma yg dpt tau badan byk angin masa kat canada.. dr portugis check dan dia kata byk sgt.. dan skrg ni tak minum langsung teh/kopi sejak tahun tu... dah de la angin2 keluar bila picit badan ..hehhe
dan memang aktif bersukan sejak muda2 dulu le...

thanks dr wati...

m-i-o said...

oh, tq for spending your time to write this entry. i rarely find people like you who take my comment seriously. hehehe!

now i feel much better. tak perlu lagi risau pasal supplement kecuali dalam kes2 tertentu seperti mengandung. muahahaha. even iron tablet tu pun pada mulanya sy cengkelat takmo telan, sampailah nurse check cakap hB below 11 - dan tanya ada makan pil yg dibagi ke tak - of course la sy tipu, sy cakap sy makan - hahaha! lepas tu, nurse naikkan dos jadi 2 biji (instead of 1). padan muka sy :P

Bevan said...

According to me nutritional vitamin supplements are really good, as most of them dislike our normal food. Supplements are made up of organic whole foods and are complete natural so risk of any side effects.

Sakina said...

Bas,

I hope one day you'll put a "Share" link on your entries because I can see them being beneficial to many people, mashaAllah.

I just realise that on most days I don't consume even 1 portion of the recommended 5! No wonder I'm sick often. Also, I am one of those paranoid skeptics of our fruits and vegetables. I love kailan but I heard paling byk kena spray with pesticides. With apples I sometimes feel mad I have to peel the skin off because I hate the wax and also because of the chemicals, but that is where most of the nutrients are. Sigh. I only ate organic while I was pregnant - people laughed at me - but now I'm glad I did! Imagine our organs being assaulted by pesticides since we first start on solids! Truly sad.

Mamaboyz said...

sakina,

will have to godek the blogspot first to find out how to put the button, not something that i always do

i know, if we don't put a conscious mind on what we eat, we won't know that it's not enough for our requirement to fight diseases...if you have enough money yes spend it on organic stuffs, it takes only a few days for your urine to clear up all the pesticides